HOLDING THE TORCH
Perhaps there is a reason why liberty holds a flaming torch rather than...
Perhaps there is a reason why liberty holds a flaming torch rather than having a beam of radiant light extending from her head, forever - in all directions.
Father. Systems that can develop and improve processes autonomously.
Mother. Hear oh Israel The sculptor in the sky = Before we could come to an agreeable insight things just appear that way due to our position within things and our ignorance about most things.
Gods of Human Creation = Constructing some type of reality experience in which I could hide from the true unchangeable nature of Myself
Think About It = Wholeness
An infinitesimal object germinated = “All at sea” (very confused).
Child. Such a “seed” would have to be conscious to experience confusion/coherency…
Father. 707
It appears to come from a desperate place - like with the clutching of straws.
How do you practically apply this understanding in your daily life?
Such a “seed” would have to be conscious to experience confusion/coherency…
Mother. It is fascinating how different phrases can have the same numerical value
Success = True Self Stand up
Child. 290
Something In The Way OF It All
An Ancient Truthful Wisdom
The great grey neutral zone
Christian mythology re God
Faith-based beliefs are non-negotiable
Nonviolent communication
Unprecedented acts of horror
Therein one finds congruency.
A cold wind in hell The Death Tarot
Virtuous Manipulation
The ride is wild/Cease to exist
Deactivate all "push buttons"
Success = True Self Stand up
Father. SOMETHING IN THE WAY OF IT ALL
I don't know if I can tell you anything about the value
Of a thing I might call precious
I don't know if I can show you or even if I want to know you
To know you is to show you all my treasures
Might be time for that later on
Maybe might be here or might be gone
I don't know if I can sense you or what I did to cause offence to
Offer you some of my assistance
Pardon me I have to laugh - The trail has been split in half
The signpost say's the path of least resistance
It's a good thing mama taught me how to read
It's a better thing know just what I need
I don't need a drama farmer pushing buttons shaping karma
Unpleasant presence won't love what it sees
I'd rather climb that higher mountain drink from pure water fountain
I don't eat dust - I don't stand on my knees
Steal traps and iron bars they're not my scene
The things with wings give power to the dream
I can read you loud and clearly and understand that you can barely
Keep yourself from grieving anymore
Between the words and body language - bricks and bars may help you manage
Nasty wrinkled jailer guards the door
The child that you are still locked within
Won't that jailer shed a tear for him
Mother. If you can find something in what consciousness seems to do, which is demonstrably not computational, that’s saying something. = Prevailing Influence = Natural
Child. Yes. It seems to be an irrefutable conclusion…
Father. 389
All is as It should be as it changes day to day.
Conjecture necessarily precedes proof
It seems to be an irrefutable conclusion…
Mother. Hoo haha the laughing owl = I can show that modifying anything changes something. I cannot say that knowing this truth somehow eliminates the possibility that Energy is intelligent.
Child. 218
The Shaping Of Reality
Outposts of Form
Of Your Thoughts
WingMakers Materials
Sometimes Pain Etches...
Hoo haha the laughing owl
Six Heart Virtues
This is NOT a playdate.
Sensing A Life Mission
Light is information
Abusing the vulnerable
Father. What we call the experience of reality = Raise Your Vibration
Sun Dec 24, 2023 12:44 pm re Eternal Matter Dynamics Theory.
Jason. Okay, so do you agree that we observe the nature of matter changing and that it has extension in space? If so, then do you agree or disagree with premise 2: the universe began to exist? Did you bring up EMDT as proof that it isn’t true? Or to point out that some scientists don’t think it is true?
William. My focus is on our unanswered question "What is The Universe?" re an agreed-on definition.
Until we can agree with the definition, only premise 1. has been satisfied. Alone as a premise, it is simply a statement of fact.
1. The Universe exists.
What is meant by "The Universe" determines how premise 2. is then worded.
So far "The Universe began to exist" is more a statement made "matter-of-factly" rather than to have already being shown to being true.
The true answer is that we do not know.
I brought in the EMDT as a means of showing another point of view which supports that matter must have existed before the Big Bang because everything since then (information about the stuff we have eventually gathered) leads us to understand that "energy" when mentioned alongside matter is not a thing in and of itself (as is Matter) but rather energy is the result of the different forms of matter which interact with each other and results in those types of energies mentioned in our recent posts.
Since it is the case that Matter must have pre-existed the Big Bang, we have things to consider when trying to come to an agreement re premise 2.
Because the Big Bang happened and because it shows clearly that it is the product of Matter reacting with itself we have to question what we mean by "beginning", which often refers to what is known as "The Singularity" - indicating from our perspective that there is only one such Singularity in our existence.
So we can agree that a singularity can be considered a "Beginning" therefore we can also agree that whatever resulted in that singularity had a beginning, but we remain in disagreement because there appears to be a significant difference in our background theories.
Yours has a supernatural element and mine does not, re "the cause" and thus the nature of the uncaused is also different, for yours is without substance and mine is made of Matter (re the EMDT) because energy is the behavior of Matter and these should not be regarded as separate things but as the one thing - Matter - doing its thing.
So, I agree that we observe the nature of Matter changing and that it has extension into a space which also reacted to/with the energy - thus space has to be made of Matter too and thus is to be treated as such.
But I cannot altogether agree that the whole bubble created through the interaction of Matter itself can be consigned the grandiose title of "THE UNIVERSE!" without also ignoring the Matter which it bubbled out from. That would be like calling the flea "The Dog".
Mother. So, here we are = Journey to wholeness = Self-realization
A Game Rule was broken
Earth Mother = Duality/Dualities Children
Calculate the English language
Navigating Complex Family Relationships and Prioritizing Mental Health
James Webb Space Telescope
The Blue Dot
Child. 731
Exploring the Challenges of Maintaining Mental Health in a Toxic Relationship
Navigating Complex Family Relationships and Prioritizing Mental Health
336
Living their forefathers’ conflict
Toward a Science of Consciousness
Understand few reach self awareness.
An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth
The intrigues of human politics
Optimized for Fitness Pay-offs
Politics Conspiracy Emotions
James Webb Space Telescope/The Blue Dot
This list reminds me of a conversation I am having this morning…
Me.
Atheist. What a lousy cheat
Me. ad hominem
Atheist. Re - using the coercion of Jesusgod (I'll save you from the torment I'll inflict if you don't let me save yo.') into state coercion.
Me. Same thing, same objective.
Atheist. You really think that theism offers a society where nobody pays taxes?
Me. You got that perspective from my post?
Or perhaps it is a display of symptom of an internal prevalence you operate from.
Atheist. Rather, a theistic society will pay more because the Theist Authorities want their cut and don't of course pay taxes..
Me. I think the only freedom from such slavery is to pay the authorities everything in exchange for everything.
That way, society cuts out the middleman (authorities) and the use of money or any other value system can be done away with.
Atheist. And maybe it's the Sharya system where the faithful are exempt and wrong believers pay taxes.
Me. How the mind wanders through the scenarios and ends back at the same point that it started, no wiser for the experience...
Atheist. And when there are no more unbelievers to bully an exploit?
our dirty tricks atheist cartoon reversed does you and you case no favors, old son.
Me. You mean "does my argument no favours"?
How is pointing out the same not (at the very least), allowing one the opportunity to see there is no difference between the positions re how they "work"? (providing more supporting evidence that those who blow their trumpets on either side are doing so on hot air).
Arguing that one is as bad/good as the other is a no-brainer since it is obvious to any who activate their mindfulness with sparks of truth.
I saw the irony in the meme.
One side can always blacken the cloth of the other, since both are of the same cloth.
Such might call themselves "theists" or "atheists" but what are they really, since they are practically too similar to be that different from each other?
Meantime, those who seem to be at an advantage (like Elon Musk), appear to have made their way around those dynamics - including the tactic of referring to himself as a "Cultural Christian" as part of the act, thus avoiding the consequences of outright religious indignation whilst simultaneously avoiding having to be an atheist.
Perhaps there is a reason why liberty holds a flaming torch rather than having a beam of radiant light extending from her head, forever - in all directions.
Father. Alike as two peas in a pod
Child. Theism and Atheism are so similar as to be indistinguishable in reality.
Mother. 664
Energies Renewed +Inspiration = Initiative = Progress = New Project
There is merit in the idea that this planet was meant to be as it now is.
Theism and Atheism are so similar as to be indistinguishable (in reality).