FREEDOM IN THE KNOWING
Mother. Central to The Message Betterment = Giving our best - QueenBee - Get The Ball Rolling
'Everybody wants to rule the world'
You wrote Mon Aug 29, 2022 9:39 pm
“I accept all religions as equally having not being proved or disproved and anyone’s personal beliefs are not an issue re Simulation Theory. [ST]
The topics I mentioned were not for the purpose of discussing them any further than would be necessary, as ST is adequate enough device for explaining the – otherwise – impossible/highly unlikely/against the laws of physics subjects.
The Resurrection can be explained with ST, as easily as the order things are mentioned re the creation story [Bible].
ST shouldn’t contradict an individual’s faith/belief if indeed it is agreed that “Creation” and “Simulation” can/do signify the same thing.
We could go through the list of strange/miraculous/physics-defying biblical events to see if any could be identified as questionable re ST. Nothing comes to memory as I write this…
Re your second line of thought, my mention of the two opposing positions [theism/atheism] in relation to the words “if one accepts” [either way], theists could answer “Yes” and atheists would answer “No” to the idea that we exist within a creation/simulation.
“Blind Faith” really isn’t an issue and those who have/hold it are not in any way disadvantaged than those who apply a more academic study-based belief re the question “Do we exist within a creation/simulation?”
Re your third line of thought, “godidit” is derogatory atheistic terminology and the links I provided give more comprehensive insight into ST and could be used in part to explain how a Creator might create.
Re your forth line of thought, I am using the word "creator [creators]" separate from the word "simulator" in the same way we would differentiate “Computer Program” from “Programmer” although – if it goes that way, I am happy to discuss why these might need to be conflated.”
Father. “The universe is not short on wake-up calls. We’re just quick to hit the snooze button.”
Conceptual Art = Sphere
Something In the way of it all
Map = Disclosure of Knowledge = Freedom in The Knowing
Son. SOMETHING IN THE WAY OF IT ALL
I don't know if I can tell you anything about the value
Of a thing I might call precious
I don't know if I can show you or even if I want to know you
To know you is to show you all my treasures
Might be time for that later on…
Maybe might be here or might be gone
I don't know if I can sense you or what I did to cause offence to
Offer you some of my assistance
Pardon me I have to laugh - The trail has been split in half
The signpost say's the path of least resistance
It's a good thing mama taught me how to read…
It's a better thing know just what I need
I don't need a drama farmer pushing buttons shaping karma
Unpleasant presence won't love what it sees
I'd rather climb that higher mountain drink from pure water fountain
I don't eat dust - I don't stand on my knees
Steal traps and iron bars they're not my scene…
The things with wings give power to the dream
I can read you loud and clearly and understand that you can barely
Keep yourself from grieving anymore
Between the words and body language - bricks and bars may help you manage
Nasty wrinkled jailer guards the door
The child that you are still locked within…
Won't that jailer shed a tear for him
Mother. Those who prove not to be interested in the evidence for gods, are those who can be ignored when they demand evidence for gods.
The discussion Fri Oct 07, 2022 11:35 am
William. How do we distinguish between the stories of the Bible to do with YVHV interacting with humans, and Aliens that exist on other planets, or for that matter - possible AI artifacts of Aliens which were sent out to seed other planets?
Oliver. I'm asserting the Bible is reliable and true and the contents are authoritative to give us an understanding of YHVH in this thread.
William. What understanding of YHVH does the Bible give which wouldn't include AI Artifacts as a reasonable explanation for those stories?
Oliver. If you want to assert aliens are AI artifacts, please support that in another thread.
William. Why? Does the idea that YHVH is an AI Alien Artifact unsettle you. How is the idea even unscriptural?
Oliver. I would agree that it requires a series of improbable steps for life, esp advanced life, to exist in the universe. And as far as I know, there are no plausible naturalistic explanation for any of the steps leading to multicellular life. As a matter of fact, I believe just getting to a simple cell naturalistically would be impossible. So, my prediction is not even a single cell life exists elsewhere in the universe.
William. Do you base your prediction on what the bible says?
Oliver. Actually, primarily on science and empirical evidence. Is there any evidence of any alien single cell life existing?
William. So your use of science in this manner has it that the only complex organisms which are evident are here on this planet and that due to the enormous problems in sparking life up in this universe you assert that there can be no other life in the universe?
Re that, you assert that YHVH created a universe which isn't able to spawn life but was able to make life happen due to the specific conditions YHVH created on one single tiny planet, to make that happen.
After managing to do that, YHVH specifically creates human forms which are able to function through the high end of intelligence and - knowing that humans will never survive anywhere else in the universe, YHVH gave us the order to spread across the face of the planet and subdue said planet.
For what practical purpose did YHVH do all this?
Indeed, why was it necessary to make the universe so infinitely huge and place innumerable objects within it which are of no use to human beings?
Son. Yes. The Map shows us that there is at least life on this one Sphere.
Since I wrote that, I have come to realize that there is no particular reason to assume that what are referred to as “Extraterrestrials” actually have to derive from off-planet.
When the age of the Earth is taken onto consideration, it can be assumed logically that any “aliens” that exist, are likely to have evolved on this planet.
Given the popular mythology re “aliens” – that there are certain “lizard” types, and knowing what we do about the existence (and eventual demise of) most dinosaurs due to a catastrophic event – there is no logical reason to think that all those millions of years ago, an intelligent specie of lizard evolved to become the dominant subduer of that epoch and advance into a technological age prior to the extinction event.
Perhaps they had no choice but to set up a base on/in the moon to escape said event?
Father. The relationship between sound and formation re The Universe's existence. = Calm Precognition = Exploring the Mysteries of Consciousness and Personal Growth
Fog = Change of plans – (thirteen minutes later “boom!” Had he been there as scheduled – he would have died…)
The Hologram of Deception – Yawn
Mother. Acid test = A Clean Channel
The Hub Of Hologram Dimensions = The Smokescreen called "scientifically unrespectable"
Gypsies Stagnant = Soon Trust issues
The Real Spiritual Indeed Ensures You Get To Know It = Sit Tight
The Agreement List = Word - String Values
The Ouroboros does not contradict the idea of Oneness, higher self and the cosmic mind. = Hypothesis Rules
You Do It Through Thought = Be among the blue dots and leave the red dots to their sanctuaries... = Loyal
Sun Aug 21, 2022 3:20 pm you wrote.
“Perhaps atheists who used to be theists, have muddied the waters which have made Atheism so difficult to define so that others might altogether clearly understand the position being held?”
Son. Can alignment every be reached, using false-image attacking methods?
Father. 557
It is consciousness behaving as consciousness behaves.
The idea of nothing is non-relevant to the fact of something.
...it is part of the recipe of a full authentic human experience...
Information doesn't only describe nature - it is nature
Laugh in the face of death...and perhaps death laughs along with you...
Effectively Curtailed Micro Reflections of a Macro Reality
Can alignment every be reached, using false-image attacking methods?
Mother.
“Disturbingly true”
Either the creative force is one of intelligence or it isn't.
The propensity to conflate "we exist within a creation" with "The creator/creators must therefore be evil"
Archangel Metatron Intransigent
Son. Recent information I found re Metatron is that it is not a Hebrew name…
Father. 325
Mutual Dutiful Expression
Condescending Ideas About Imagination
Don’t hide your Generated Messages
Imposed Appropriates Observed
Transactional Ghost In The Machine
Mathematics debunks chaos theory.
Archangel Metatron Intransigent
Zero Eight Zero One Two Three
Mother. 80
Learning
Bullies
Beckoning
Answer
Re-channel.
You Do
Egregore
Funny
Salient
A Jump Ahead
No More
800
♫With a small nervous cough - the wedding was off - we could all sense a change in the weather ♫
Human beings can do it the hard way or the easy way, but either way, the job will get done.
Approach these ideas with a sense of humility and an openness to learning and growth.
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Good Intent
Conundrum
Comparison
State Of Being
Realisation
A Bright Star
Life Carriers
Jacque Fresco
Ontology
Let The Day In
Madventure
On the off-chance
Up for grabs
The Vain Brain
Son. So, as the story/mythology has it, Metatron is someone who was a mundane (in comparison to “angels”) human who was “transformed” – and taken to “heaven” (perhaps to the moon) and became the youngest ever “angel” among the ancients.
Perhaps the same thing happened to Jesus re the Ascension story/mythology…
The light in the dark everyone a great spark - everyone of us all here together
With a small nervous chough, the wedding was off - We could all sense a change in the weather
Down came the waters - great the monsoon
Washing the soul as it cleared out the room
Drowning all warriors in every platoon
Still tied to the blood of the moon…